Tips on How to Drop Everything and Move Abroad

November 17, 2007 on 12:02 am | In About, Travel | | Email This Post

I’m going to publicly reply to a comment I got from a long-time reader via email because I think it might be useful to a lot of people.

The reader had the following question…

I’ve been reading your blog for about 2 years now and I was really
impressed with how you seamlessly went from Iowa to Japan. In 3 months
feb 11, 2008 I’ll be moving to shanghai for an undetermined amount of
time. What advise would you give someone in my position. I’m about 5
years older than you and I’m not leaving for china straight out of
school. I graduated college in ‘01. So leaving my first cozy apt and
life long friends is a little un-nerving.

Tough question! I’m trying hard to keep this post to a reasonable length.

First of all, China and Japan are very different.

china streets

Here’s an anecdote. I was in Beijing for one week a few years ago. In Beijing, while doing the tourist thing, I was stopped by some people I had never met. They had their cameras out and were asking things in Chinese that I did not understand. It turns out they wanted me to pose in a picture with them. I happily confusedly volunteered. They passed around their camera and took turns taking pictures with me as if I was some kind of celebrity or something. This happened 3 times before I left. Once at the Temple of Heaven, once on the Great Wall, and once some other place I don’t recall, but I do think it was at a sight-seeing location. On a side note, this also happened to me in Taiwan and India, but that’s another story.

I assume the requested-paparazzi-shot-joiners were Chinese coming from rural China to the “big city” for some tourism of their own, and were excited to see foreigners roaming around. But still, my point is, this doesn’t happen in Japan – At all. I was blown away. I had been living in Japan for more than three years before I made that trip, and I still had culture shock in China. So I’m no China expert.

But hey, they’re both East Asia, so there must be some similarities – right-right? Yeah-yeah? Especially when seen from the eyes of a Westerner. Can’t read the signs, clothes don’t fit, people stare, you know what I mean. I’m assuming the reader who posed the question is from the United States, or some other Western English speaking country. I’m also assuming he’s male… not that it matters, but it will make my pronoun management easier.

First of all, let me point out what I think are going to be the major differences in my Japan move and the readers upcoming China move.

great wall fo china

I moved to Japan pretty much a clean slate with no planned return.

I was coming straight from college (out-of-state student at that) so I didn’t have much any “baggage” to leave behind or take with me. Our reader seems to be very settled in, so he’ll have to deal with things like… furniture.

He also knows that his trip to China is temporary, even though the total duration is unknown. The knowledge that he won’t be there “forever”, and also that he is us unable to control how long he will be there is going to be a huge factor psychologically. In my case, I came because I wanted, and had no plans to leave. In addition, I knew that I could leave anytime I decided to.

I already spoke Japanese, and had been to Japan before.

I’m guessing here, but it sounds like maybe the reader has never been to China? Not sure… But whether or not one has visited the country they’re about to live in before moving there will make a big difference in the whole experience. And China! Wow.

I have only once had to go to a country where I had never been and didn’t speak the language and start living there, and that was France for a short 6 months. Needless to say, an American going to France versus an American going to China is like comparing apples and oranges. (Or should I say, baguettes and rice?) Anyway, even France was tricky at times. Simple things like, what are the major cell phone companies in this country? Where exactly in the city is this apartment that the company has arranged for me? Public transportation strikes? Huh? Even if you’re given country info packets and whatnot before departure, once you hit the ground it’s a whole new world. China is about as foreign as foreign countries get from a Western perspective.

Similarities? Going abroad for work.

That said, one thing we have in common is that it appears that the reader is heading over with a job already lined up, as I did.

This means that he will already have a type of social network available. People at work will take him for lunch, and show him the city after work. He’ll have people he can ask questions to, and also get help from. This is huge. These people will also likely speak English, unless the reader is already fluent in Chinese and that is the reason he is being sent over. If my going abroad for work theory is true, he he’ll also have a corporate safety net to help him through thick and thin.

3 Tips for your Move Abroad

Now to address the readers question. I’ve babbled on long enough.

1. Get up to speed on the expat community scene asap.

I can hear the hardcore ex-pats now moaning, “get up to speed on the ex-pat community?? Why go to China to hang out with a bunch of foreigners?!” You know me, I’m the last to endorse foreigner herding when one is trying to learn the culture and language and totally emerse oneself in the host countries culture… However this situation is different. Our reader might be in Shanghai for 3 years, or he might be there for 3 months, it’s totally undetermined. Getting in with a knowledgable ex-pat crowd will allow him to jump-start his ability to function in Shanghai and get his information flood gates wide open – and let me tell ya, information is the key to having fun in a foreign country.

Major cities abroad usually have some type of English language information magazine targeting ex-pats from around the world. In Japan we have things like Kansai Time Out and Metropolis. When I was in Beijing I noticed a great mag, I think it was called Beijing Now! (Xianxai Beijing). I’m sure Shanghai has one too.

Also, one of the best China-related forums I have come across is modestly titled, Chinese-Forums. Tell everyone there your situation and I’m sure you’ll get tons of good advice. Also, there is a hardcore (as in, rather exclusive feeling) mailing list about deep China topics that would be good to lurk on for a while called oriental-list.

The point here is to start setting up your information sources. The more information you have available the less daunting the move will be.

2. Get excited about the move.

I would suggest getting excited about the move abroad. For example, start planning vacations. You’re not sure how long you will be in Shanghai right? This may be your first and only visit to China! When are you going to go visit the great wall? When are you going to take the train into Tibet? Japan is close now! Start marking up your calendar! The more things you have to look forward to in China the easier it’s going to be to pick up your suitcase and go.

3. Make the language decision early.

Going to spend time learning Mandarin in Mandarin and Shanghai-nese speaking Shanghai? It’s an important decision to make.

With a language like Chinese, I think it would be best if you make a conscious decision as to whether or not you’re going to try to learn the language at all before you get on the plane. Since your time is undetermined it’s even trickier. I think if you end up being in Shanghai for a full year and never attempt to seriously learn the language you’ll be missing out on a lot, and probably be kicking yourself for it later in life. That said, if you end up only being in Shanghai for 4 months, spending your time in the books trying to learn Mandarin might actually be, and I hate to say it, but a waste of time. Or, at least not worth the time. You could be spending that time wandering through the back streets of the city, or burning your tongue on baozi.

The reason that I put the language decision on this list, is that I have met many foreigners in Japan for whom the language thing has greatly impacted their experience in the country. For some, the daily successes they have in communicating with Japanese locals who do not speak English is motivation to continue and makes everyday fun… For others, the constant reminder that they are effectively illiterate after living in the country for 3 or 4 years is a constant drain on the self-esteem. Plus, if you give the language a shot, the locals will love you for it.

chinese playing igo on the streets

Make the decision of whether or not to study before you go, and if you decide that, yes, you want to give Mandarin a try… Get signed up for Chinesepod.com today! It’s freakin’ great. Actually… I think they’re based in Shanghai…

Personally… If I knew that I would be in Shanghai for at least six months, I would probably go all out and try to pick up as much Chinese as possible.

Here’s another anecdote. When I was in France for six months I went to night school at Alliance Francias to study French. It was one of the best decisions I made. It gave me a social group to hang out with (travel buddies too), and a way to learn things about France that I never would have learned between the office and my apartment.

That’s a wrap.

I asked a friend who recently dropped everything and moved from NYC to Tokyo what he would say in response to this question.

I have American friends living in Shanghai making a GREAT living and indicating no intention of moving back to the U.S. anytime soon. That said, these guys invested heavily in learning the language and don’t need any help to navigate their way around Chinese business. So, I don’t personally consider Shanghai a long term winner for a Westerner looking to live in another country, but if your interest is strictly business (say, 5 years or so) and you are willing to learn the language, Shanghai is probably the best place in China right now. Many people who know what they’re talking about call it the new Tokyo. I don’t agree, but I would feel guilty not relating what I’ve heard.

I’m sure that many JapanNewbie readers have been through similar situations. Let us know what advice you would give in the comments!

Ah… A few last pieces of advice.

It might be a good idea to buy the domain ShanghaiNewbie.com and start a blog. That would let you meet all sorts of other China ex-pats and learn from them while giving back a little as well! (I’m serious)

Also, you might want to start doing research into what steps you could take to extend your stay in Shanghai, just in case you end up loving it.

I’m totally serious. One of my friends, Kitty, who comments here occasionally was randomly sent to Japan from Georgia years ago. Didn’t want to go. Went kicking and screaming. Yet she ended up asking to have her stay extended. I think this actually happens quite frequently.

Living abroad is a ton of fun. I would jump at the chance to live in Shanghai for a while, you’re going to love it!

- Harvey


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    That’s funny Harvey! I kept reading and reading and thinking you had covered everything then got to the end and realized that no matter how much you write it couldn’t possibly cover the reality of the experience.

    And yes 5 months before I was called to go to Japan I had the opportunity to formally apply for a long term ex-pat position. No way. The people in Japan are tiny and talk funny. And it about killed me to go when I was strong-armed into doing it for a month because I was 40-ish, owned a tiny little home and collect cats as a hobby. To go for one month was the end of my life. And it literally took 2 hours after my plane landed for me to really like it. By day 2 I knew I wanted to stay for a while.

    Harvey is right about the language thing. I started too late. I had about 6 words when I went over but finally signed up for weekly classes with a tutor. People love it when a foreigner can at least have a brief exchange in the native language.

    My only additional comment is be open to everything. Especially food. Try everything. Even if they put roasted scorpions in front of you absolutely try them. You will impress everyone if you can do this and you will be surprised at how many things are delicious. The fact that I tried (and loved) natto in Japan made the Tokyo staff accept me with open arms. In Mexico I ate the escamoles (they were delicious) and I am now family. Also I am addicted to escamoles which is the ONLY reason I have agreed to return to Mexico for another month!

    Comment by Kitty — November 17, 2007 #

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    The ex-pat thing is a great idea. I was in Tokyo for 2 months with no friends and barely spoke the language. Luckily I had booked a few DJ gigs ahead of time and the people who booked me and the people I met at the gigs became my instant friends and SAVED MY LIFE those first few weeks. Also, I told everyone I knew I was going to Tokyo, and a few knew people there, whom they hooked me up with. Absolutely follow up on these friendship leads. I had some amazing experiences and met some great people from those “oh, my friend’s friend lives in Tokyo” connections. Good luck!

    Comment by Adam — November 18, 2007 #

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    Good advice. Very similar to what I did when I came to japan.

    Well, this is my first visit here and I’m so impressed that you’ve been bookmarked.

    Keep it up and I’ll link to you from my blog. ;-)

    Comment by Contamination — November 20, 2007 #

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    Bang up post Harvey. Great info!

    Comment by Jessica — November 21, 2007 #

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    Thanks for answering my question in a post. I think it will be helpful to others trying to make the same transition. This will be my first time living outside of New York, except for that time back in ‘04 when I moved to Stamford, CT for a year. I’ve been to Taiwan a couple of times, every year since 2002. But still the thought of going to another country with no plan to return is huge. You can read about it in my newly minted blog after chinese new year. I’ll send you a link then.

    Comment by kole — November 23, 2007 #

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    Great blog Harvey! Thanks for helping me to start my list. I’ll be moving back to Japan in a couple of months and wanted to suggest some more items for your list:
    Have a complete physical before you head out, check out international medical insurance,
    Figure out what to do with your mail,
    Make sure your credit card doesn’t charge crazy fees for international transactions
    And if you have a car that you will be keeping look into changing your insurance coverage to save big bucks!

    Comment by Shane — December 5, 2007 #

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